Wednesday, August 22, 2007

Poll: Should A Police Officer, Who Is Married To An Illegal Alien, Lose His Job?

He's a cop. She's an illegal alien.

Take the poll at the bottom of this post.

That's the choice we in Vegas are asking Sheriff Gilespie to make. Last Sunday we learned that one of our police officers was married to an illegal alien. While our local paper themselves is down the middle on the issue ... there are several reporters that are pro-illegal, and they write plenty of articles on the subject.

Many of those reporters, like Lynnette Curtis, are always looking for the sympathy angle in the immigration debate. You know what I'm talking about ... the whole love angle, and don't split up families, etc.

That appears to be the angle Ms. Curtis took with this article. A police officer puts his name, and his picture, in the local newspaper to expose that he himself is breaking the law that he is sworn to uphold.


He's a cop.

She's an illegal immigrant.

They're in love.

It's not the plot of a made-for-TV movie. It's real life for Cesar Urena, a local police officer, and his wife, Yuvia, who is living in the United States illegally.

The situation has brought to their young marriage a serious undercurrent of fear and uncertainty.

"I'm scared they're going to come here one day and just take me away," Yuvia, 28, said on Thursday while holding the couple's 1-year-old son, Sebastian.

I'd like to point out that they are fully aware that they are both breaking the law. Otherwise they would not be so afraid of ICE coming to take her away.

Cesar Urena, a 27-year-old U.S. citizen and former Marine who served a tour of duty in Iraq, says he understands why some might find the couple's relationship especially interesting considering his law enforcement work.

"It's tough for me, because I'm in the middle," he said. "I see both sides."

But Cesar wasn't worried about Yuvia's legal status when they met in 2001. Yuvia, a Mexican national, was working at a souvenir kiosk in a local casino at the time. Cesar was visiting Las Vegas from California with some Marine buddies.

The two hit if off and began a long-distance relationship. They fell in love, and Cesar eventually moved to Las Vegas to be with Yuvia full-time.

They married about three years ago, and have a second baby on the way.

Ok, so he lived in California, and she lived hear in Vegas. He visited and hit it off with her, but the relationship didn't develop into the typical one night stand. Instead it became a long distance relationship, and eventually he moved to Vegas to be with her.

He would then become an officer with Metro while having this relationship with an illegal alien. They then got married, had one kid, and have another on the way.

The whole "he was a soldier in Iraq" bit was a cute attempt to arouse sympathy for him breaking the law.

Before we continue I'd like to point something out about Metro's (LVPD) standards for acceptance on the force.

We all know you can't be a cop if you are a felon. Metro, however, takes it one step further. If you commit a misdemeanor crime in another state, and are never convicted of a felony, but that minor crime would have been a felony in Nevada ... you can't join the force. Even though you have no felony conviction on your record ... if it would have been a felony here ... you can't become a cop.

So how did a force with such strict standards miss something like this with the extensive background, and interview, checks they do?

The couple recently decided it was time to get Yuvia's legal status in order. They contacted a local immigration attorney to explore their options.

What they found out was that those options are extremely limited, and could involve them being separated for up to a decade.

Current U.S. immigration law requires that a person make a lawful entry into the United States in order to adjust to legal permanent resident status.

If a person entered the country illegally, that individual would have to leave the country and then come back.

Well, it's nice of them to finally decide to do the right thing.

Current US immigration law states that if you have been in the US illegally for less than 1 year, you face a potential 3 years before you can return. If you've been illegally in the country for over 1 year, you face a potential 10 years before you can return legally. The interesting aspect of this is that if you never enter the US illegally, but are waiting to enter our country the legal, proper way ... you face a 12-15 wait is most cases. Now tell me that illegals aren't cutting in line.

This is where it starts getting really amusing.

But if Yuvia leaves the country, she can be barred from returning for up to 10 years because she lived in the United States illegally, even though she's married to a U.S. citizen.

It's a dilemma many families of mixed immigration status across the United States face: Remain here illegally, or potentially be separated from loved ones for up to a decade in order to get legal status.

For now, the couple has chosen the former. Yuvia has no plans to return to Mexico.

"I might not be able to come back," she said. "I'm not going to be separated from my family for 10 years."

This is the great lie about the immigration debate from the sympathy seekers. THE US CAN NOT SEPARATE FAMILIES FROM ONE ANOTHER BY DEPORTING AN ILLEGAL ALIEN! It can't be done, and is impossible ... period, end of story! The only people that can break up a family and be separated from loved ones are the families themselves.

There is no law, statute, or any other entity that requires the US citizens to stay in the US while the illegal is sent home. If an illegal is deported you can pack up, and move out of the US to keep your family together until you can legally resolve the case.

If a family chooses to split themselves up ... that is their choice, and their choice alone. It is not the fault of the government, and there is no one to blame but themselves. They knew the risks in marrying and having children with an illegal, and they chose to accept that risk. They must be willing to accept the responsibility, and consequences of their decision.

So this family doesn't want to be split up, but they don't have any plans to return to Mexico ... why?

The couple could move together to Mexico until Yuvia gets legal permission to come back to the United States, but it's not an option Cesar is considering.

"I have to stay here," he said. "My job is here. I would be lost in Mexico."

AWWWWWWWWWW! He would be lost ... poor baby. His job may not be here much longer either. That should make his decision a little easier.

He should have thought about all of this before he started breaking the law. Folks, this IS A COP TALKING! He is duty bound to uphold the law yet he breaks it everyday.

This police officer knew the risks of entering into a marriage with an illegal alien, and now he is unwilling to make the situation right because it's too difficult. It's always difficult to do the right thing. If he won't do the right thing now, and uphold the oath he swore to uphold ... how can we trust him as a law enforcement officer?

It doesn't matter what your view on immigration is in this case. Bottom line is that it IS illegal to harbor an illegal alien (which is a fugitive on the run), and many Americans have paid a price for this action in criminal court. You can not have a police officer who perpetually breaks the law to remain on the force.

Sheriff Gilespie has been asked about the situation by AM 840 KXNT. He said he'd look into the matter.

Should A Police Officer Married To An Illegal Alien Lose His Job?
Yes, he is breaking the law.
No, the law is wrong.
He should not lose his job, but should face suspension. free polls


6 comments to "Poll: Should A Police Officer, Who Is Married To An Illegal Alien, Lose His Job?"

Joseph, retired US Army COL said...
12:30 AM

This is the most asinine journalistic reporting I have yet seen and I have seen a lot. What law did this man break? Under our constitution the government cannot create, enact or enforce a law that is antagonistic to marriage. (the wife cannot testify against the husband exclusion, remember that one pinheads)! So to you liberal morons who just want to hammer a cop and former marine fold up your tents and go home. End of story, or would you, like the Nazis of WWII, like to get a little practice of ripping families apart in the dead of night? Oops, looks like the protectors of freedom have failed again. Why don’t you all just run for congress, or become used car salesmen. More your ilk.

Casey said...
10:55 AM

It is against federal law to harbor a fugitive, and/or anyone in the country illegally. Therefore, this police officer is breaking the law, and his sheriff has acknowledged that in an interview on

It would be wrong for a police officer to be allowed to remain on the force while breaking the law himself. You don't get to pick and choose which laws you'll uphold, and which you won't.

No families are being split apart by our government, and the Nazi comment was disingenuous. The only families that are split up are the ones that make that choice for themselves. All relatives (and friends for that matter) are free to accompany the deported individual in order to maintain the structure of the family.

People like the woman who held herself up in a Chicago church should not be seen as the victim. She chose to abandon her child when she didn't have to.

Anonymous said...
8:10 PM

The single BOLD statement in this article, the crux of the argument, is wrong and shows the author knows nothing about U.S. law. It says the U.S. can not separate families because the U.S. citizen can simply move to the deported spouse's country of origin. WRONG!!! In every developed country in the world, that country's citizens are free to leave and 'opt out of the system', no strings attached... except one. There is only one developed country that doesn't allow it's citizens to "escape". That is the United States of America. In the U.S., you have to pay, roughly 35-40% of your income in taxes; even if you live abroad. No other developed country is like that. In every other country, you pay taxes when you live in that country. Taxes are paid in exchange for the services the government offers. They are voluntary. You don't like the services your government offers, fine, you leave. In the U.S., however, that's not true. So, if the U.S. citizen goes to live abroad, then he will have to pay that foreign country their taxes (usually 35-40%) to cover the services that foreign country provides, but, unless he's in a country with a tax treaty in the U.S., he will STILL have to pay his taxes to the U.S. Maybe on a cop's salary the taxes aren't a big deal, but what if he becomes successful in his wife's foreign country and has a good income? He can get stuck paying nearly 100% of his income in taxes because the U.S. won't let him 'opt out' of the system. So what's he supposed to feed his family with if he has to pay taxes to both his resident country and to the U.S.???? Duh. Talk to a tax attorney and you'll learn the U.S. uses the tax system to impose a virtual Berlin wall to keep tax-paying citizens from escaping. Remember that the next you spew out stupid comments like 'if you don't like it here you can just leave'. No you can't.

Nathaniel said...
8:40 PM

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Nathaniel said...
8:51 PM


Police officers are the protectors are law. It is a mistake done by a serving police officer. Police recruitment panel can forgive this erring police officer on grounds of humanity.

Nicole said...
1:13 PM

First off everyone who goes to a Mexican resturaunt or sees hispanic people walking down the street and doesnt report the ones they find odd or suspect would be breaking the same (law) the author is describing which is not truely a law have you ever heard of a spouse or child being charged for harboring a illegal that is a family member....uuuhhhh no. Furthermore only a court can determine weather someone is here illgealy not him or anyone else. Most people who are deported are DUPT into signing a vol deport form which they wave thier legal right to meeting a judge and having them hear out thier case. which even if found guilty can be granted a stay which would allow them to stay in this country for years. The right to apply for a green card for this case is the husband not her he needs to see a lawyer and apply for a WAVER a waver would (if granted) allow her and him to go to her home country and finish the application process without being subject to the 10 year ban. I should know my husband is illegal this is the process we are going through right now. People need to realise that illegal immigrants are people from some or the worst countries in the world, if you were in the same cituation you would probably do something simular to help your family.



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